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Is Wrexham the most haunted town in Wales? [by mpi-kev]

Thu, 15 May 2008 20:47:33 -0000

General Chat:: Is Wrexham the most haunted town in Wales?

"I looked up and there it was, standing on the bank. It was cow-like, standing on its hind legs and at least 6ft tall"

WREXHAM may be the most haunted town in Wales according to a well-known author on paranormal activities.
The statement was made by an authority on the subject � Richard Holland, author of 'Haunted Wales' and 'Haunted Clwyd', who now edits the popular uncannyuk.com website.

According to Richard, every year he hears of more ghostly experiences that residents in the town and surrounding areas have had.

He said that a number of sites have been mentioned to him recently as being a haunt for various ghosts and that there is one story in particular that interests him � the so-called 'Beast of Brymbo'.

Among the stories that Richard has been privy to of late is that of a figure that apparently haunts Wrexham swimming baths as well as strange goings on at the old Groves school and unexplained noises at office buildings on Ruabon Road and Egerton Street.

He continued: "I was told by a student who had a summer job at the baths that staff have seen a figure that sometimes appears in the viewing area after the pool closed. It's an odd place to be haunted but you never know.
"Again, I heard from one guy who works as a security guard and was on duty at the Groves not long back and, during the early hours, he was terrified by the sound of furniture moving around on the floor above his guard post.

"The building is alarmed and there seemed to be no-one there. Some of my colleagues have spoken to the cleaners at the Groves site and they also said that they have seen 'things' there."

Richard said he often hears interesting stories about people's encounters with ghosts in the Wrexham area, for example, after a recent talk he gave in Coedpoeth.

He said: "Plenty of people who work in shops in the middle of the town have told me that they have heard noises when they are opening or shutting up the shop and there turns out to be nobody there. I heard another story from someone in Coedpoeth who had been walking in a field with someone else apparently walking towards them who apparently vanished into thin air.

"Another story I heard in Coedpoeth was that a woman had been walking down the road and had felt a presence. A friend was walking towards her down the street and said, when they reached her that they had thought she was walking with someone else.

"There's a fantastic number of stories of people's personal encounters in and around Wrexham."

Perhaps the most fantastic story Richard has heard during his years of research is that of the 'Beast of Brymbo' which was first brought to his attention many years ago.

According to Richard: "Twenty years ago a friend told me a very strange story. The child of a young mum she knew had come home in tears one afternoon after being frightened by what he described as 'a cow standing up like a person with smoke coming out of its nose'. He and his little friend had both seen this fiendish shape and had run home in terror.

"Childish imagination? A trick played on two small children? Something like that, I thought � but the eerie image of this 'cow' on its hind legs stayed in my memory. There was something so medieval about it, something devilish."

Unfortunately, it had been a few years since the friend had heard the story themselves and it wasn't until a few years later that Richard was able to pinpoint where it was that the incident was supposed to have occurred.

He continued: "Come forward two decades and I happen to mention this odd anecdote to another friend, who now lives in Gresford.

"That sounds like Brymbo," he told me. "The village is split into two levels, with a big sandstone outcrop dividing them. There's a path called the Red Path which goes up it."

"My friend was brought up in Brymbo and knows the village well, but had never heard of it being haunted by such a spectre. His mother, however, had heard something about it. When he mentioned it to her, she recalled that two women she knew had spoken of encountering something very similar."

It was then that Richard was put in contact with two women who had seen something very strange when walking home from the Miner's Arms one bright, moonlit night in December 1985.

Richard retold what the women had described to him: "We were walking up the Red Path at about midnight. When we got near the top, we paused for a breather, leaning on the railings. Just there, to the left, there is another set of very steep steps which you can take as a short cut. But they're very overgrown and can be slippery, so I wasn't being serious when I suggested we take them.

"I looked up and there it was, standing on the bank. It was cow-like, standing on its hind legs and at least 6ft tall. It was a light brown colour and smooth haired. There were two little bumps where you might expect horns. We could see it clearly because it was illuminated by the moon and the streetlights.

"It just stood there, frowning down at us with its eyes wrinkled up. Its hooves were sort of dangling down in front of it. We ran up the Red Path but then realised it could easily cut us off at the top. When we got there, though, it had vanished."

But the story doesn't stop there. According to Richard, another Brymbo resident told him recently that he had seen a similar creature in the 1970's.

The man had been walking home from Minera one evening in the summer of 1971.

Again, Richard retold the story as he himself had heard it: "The time was about 9 o'clock and it was twilight. As he walked up a lane which led into Brymbo, the silhouette of 'a big thing' emerged from the hedge on his right-hand side.

"At first I thought it might be a cow," said the man, "but it wasn't. It was the wrong shape: too tall with long, thin legs. It had a similar silhouette to our lurcher dog when you see it running along the beach. But it was a bigger animal: not as big as a cow, perhaps, but certainly bigger than a dog. It had shaggy hair.

"It didn't make a sound," he said, "just stopped in the middle of the road and seemed to stare at me, although I couldn't see its eyes. Then it lost interest and carried on walking across the lane, where it disappeared into the vegetation on the other side.

"That's what made it so spooky. Apart from looking weird, it didn't behave like an ordinary animal. The way it looked at me, as if it was weighing me up. It wasn't fazed by a human presence and most animals are.

"I remember I just stood in the road for a fair while after it had gone, a little afraid to carry on walking. I'm not saying it was anything supernatural; I don't really believe in that sort of thing. But it was very strange. That's why I've never forgotten it. Just talking about it now, I can feel my hairs pricking up."

Wrexham has already been dubbed a UFO hotspot by a leading enthusiast in that particular field. Could it be that it is also a hub of other strange goings on? From tales such as the 'Beast of Brymbo' it would certainly seem so and plenty more spooky stories can be viewed on Richard's website at www.uncannyuk.com.

The book Haunted Wales has been reissued this year and you can meet Richard Holland when he gives three talks on local ghosts at the Rowan Art Gallery, Mold, on June 11, 18 and 25. Further details on 01352 752131.

source: Wrexham Leader

Vatican says aliens could exist [by mpi-kev]

Thu, 15 May 2008 10:28:50 -0000

General UFO Discussion:: Vatican says aliens could exist

mistakes were made, but it is time to turn the page and look towards the future

By David Willey
BBC News, Rome

The Pope's chief astronomer says that life on Mars cannot be ruled out.

Writing in the Vatican newspaper, the astronomer, Father Gabriel Funes, said intelligent beings created by God could exist in outer space.

Father Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory near Rome, is a respected scientist who collaborates with universities around the world.

The search for forms of extraterrestrial life, he says, does not contradict belief in God.

The official Vatican newspaper headlines his article 'Aliens Are My Brother'.

'Free from sin'

Just as there are multiple forms of life on earth, so there could exist intelligent beings in outer space created by God. And some aliens could even be free from original sin, he speculates.

Asked about the Catholic Church's condemnation four centuries ago of the Italian astronomer and physicist, Galileo, Father Funes diplomatically says mistakes were made, but it is time to turn the page and look towards the future.

Science and religion need each other, and many astronomers believe in God, he assures readers.

To strengthen its scientific credentials, the Vatican is organising a conference next year to mark the 200th anniversary of the birth of the author of the Origin of Species, Charles Darwin.

The Truth Is Finally Out There (almost) [by mpi-kev]

Wed, 14 May 2008 10:09:01 -0000

General UFO Discussion:: The Truth Is Finally Out There (almost)

Real life 'X Files' released today

More than 200 UFO sightings have been investigated by the Ministry of Defence in the last year, according to real life 'X Files' released today.
Documents detailing hundreds of sightings of unexplained objects in the skies above Britain have been opened to the public for the first time.

They reveal reports of alien craft over Wallasey Town Hall and a saucer-shaped UFO hovering over Waterloo Bridge in London.

And they tell how an elderly man claimed he was abducted by "little green men" in Aldershot in 1985. The MoD report reads: "I saw a vivid light coming towards me from the south.... I thought, it can't be an aeroplane, it's too low."

He went on: "I saw two 'forms' coming towards me. They were dressed in pale green coveralls from head to foot and they had helmets of the same colour with a visor that was blacked out."

The unnamed man says he was taken aboard the UFO and then told to leave. "A voice said: 'What is your age?'. I said: 'I shall be 78 next birthday'. He said to me: 'You can go. You are too old and too infirm for our purpose.'"

Other sightings are more convincing. In 1986 a claim from a commercial airline pilot was sent to the men at the ministry. "An unidentified object passed close to port side of aircraft" it read. "Possibilities considered: a) Asteroid b) returning space debris or c) re-entering missile. If it is established that c) is the case, then captain and crew very unimpressed."

Before conspiracy theorists get carried away, the MoD says the reason for its interest - and form filling - is straightforward.

"Reports are examined by the Ministry of Defence solely to establish whether UK airspace may have been compromised by hostile or unauthorised military activity" an official told Sky News Online.

"Unless there is evidence of a potential threat, no further work is undertaken to identify the nature of each sighting reported. The MoD has no other interest or role regarding UFO matters. Nor does the Department consider questions regarding the existence or otherwise of extraterrestrial life-forms."

But the man who used to be in charge of those files says their release will do nothing to stop the conspiracies.

"We are never going to satisfy the diehard conspiracy theorists," said Nick Pope, who appears today on a new Sky News Online programme, Unplugged.

"The French government released their UFO files a year or so ago. And of course after that the conspiracy theorists said: 'Yes, well, that's just dis-information. All the really good stuff has been kept back.' And I can guarantee that's exactly what's going to happen here in the UK."

The files are available to see online from the National Archives in London.

There are 160 of them each detailing hundreds of sightings and they will be released in small batches over the next few months.

Peter Kilfoyle MP is a former Defence Minister. In the past, he's accused the MoD of "a culture of secrecy" and welcomes the files publication.

"I tried to get them released quite some years ago when I was there," he told Sky News. "Simply because I think it would allay a lot of people's fears if they understood just what there was in these files. Lots of curiosities but nothing to suggest that little green men are running around Hampstead Heath or something!"

One thing though appears to be missing from the MoD files. Their conclusions.

Were all these sightings verified, dismissed or something else? Perhaps the truth is still out there.

New Conspiracy film [by Believer]

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:26:14 -0000

Conspiracy:: New Conspiracy film
I've come across this film the other day when doing some research about the Cathars. Take a look it's pretty interesting and mentions 2012 as a key sate.

Check it out and see for yourself:
http://www.history-of-the-cathars.com/

I personally think it brings up some interesting questions and even some answers.

JFK/Lincoln conspiracy. [by mpi-kev]

Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:30:43 -0000

Conspiracy:: JFK/Lincoln conspiracy.
ok, it's an old one that i havent seen for a while, but spotted it on another forum recently and decided to paste it in here

pretty strange i guess but i also guess someone could connect pretty much any two things together if they wished

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday..
Both Presidents were shot in the head

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln�s secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839..
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theatre named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called ' Lincoln ' made by 'Ford.'

Lincoln was shot in a theatre and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theatre.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot; he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot; he was in Marilyn Monroe.

Gets ya thinking though!

Why is 2012 so significant??? [by Believer]

Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:37:37 -0000

Conspiracy:: Why is 2012 so significant???
Ok, so I am a bit of a conspiracy geek. And recently I've been reading alot on the net about so many groups all thinking 2012 is going to be the end. From the Weavers (http://www.theweavercode.com/) to the various things about the Mayans and got me wandering why this date is so significant as being the end?

Why do they all think it will come and end on this date and not 2020? Does anyone know of any other groups who think this or do you think the Weavers could be right. Got to say the way things are going lately I think they may not be so wrong.

Re: Secret societies [by Believer]

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:49:46 -0000

Conspiracy:: Secret societies
Thanks for the reply and the info. From what I've been reading I have followed alot of what you mentioned about one group controlling everything and wanting to create a NWO. I have to admit I'd not heard about the UFO threat before but I guess there has to be some reason as to build the stuff in space as the terrorists haven't got there yet.

I had read about the Bilderberg but thought of them more of a group as opposed to a secret society. Do you think that these societies are fronts for the NWO and to throw people off the scent as it were? or are they all connected and controlled by one bit group? It's an interesting topic and one I'd like to know a bit more about. hope you can respond.

St. Augustine Residents Say a UFO Flew Over Their Homes [by mpi-kev]

Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:26:40 -0000

Your Sightings:: St. Augustine Residents Say a UFO Flew Over Their Homes

ST. AUGUSTINE, FL � Locals in St. Augustine are used to planes flying over head, after all they are close to an airport. But, on Saturday night, locals say there was something else flying through the sky.

Brandon Puckett, a 12 year old resident of St. Augustine Beach thinks it was pretty neat he got to see a UFO.

He and his mom, Laura saw two identical orange orbs that appeared to be on fire. She said the flaming globes looked as though they were traveling at the same speed, with one slightly ahead of the other, flying past the coastline around 9:00 p.m.

Some neighbors in the area say they saw the same thing.

Others are little skeptical.

They say the lights were sky lanterns lit at a wedding in St. Augustine that night. Sky lanterns can rise nearly 5,000 feet in the air and travel for miles.

However, some do agree with the Pucketts.

Sighters in Germany give the same details about flaming globes. They also saw them around 9:00 p.m. their time.

What do you think?

sourced from: First Coast news

Re: ancient ghost boy picture is a mystery [by mpi-mark]

Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:53:01 -0000

Paranormal pictures:: ancient ghost boy picture is a mystery
When Angie D'Arcy had her photos developed she was stunned to see this ghostly figure of an unknown boy.

She cannot recall anybody being in the frame when she took the snap.

Angie, 40, said: "I don't believe in ghosts but I just can't explain it.

Angie D'Arcy i can explain it i'm afraid.

The pic has been re dubbed and a picture of Anakin Skywalker, boy slave "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace" as been imposed into your picture so i'm afraid the game is up for you,

"WE DO EDIT AND SCRUTINIZE THE PICTURES FROM OUR MEMBERS AND THOSE UP-LOADED TO OUR SYSTEM"
The force has Left You Angie D'Arcy.

Re: Top Ten UK UFO Hot-Spots! [by mpi-kev]

Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:00:17 -0000

General UFO Discussion:: Top Ten UK UFO Hot-Spots!
i live in north wales and not far from an airforce base, so i do get to see lots of things inthe night sky, 99% of them i would say are explainable, but the 1% that are not are the ones that interest me, i see many many fast moving objects in the night sky, most are probably aircraft or satellites, but there was one time about 20 years ago, where it was very foggy and just turning dark and something flew over, not high up at all i would say 200 feet at the most , it was very , very large, slow moving and silent, the only thing that gave it away was the orange glow that was surrounding it and it glided past and into the distance, that to me was the turning point and convinced me that sometimes objects in the sky are not of this earth and can come and go at will